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发表于 2007-6-9 13:34:05 | 显示全部楼层
<p>——护房树,槐树别称。</p><p>别称在诗种分咏里应该也算犯题吧。</p><p>比如咏荷花,我直接写芙蓉,也是犯题的&nbsp;</p>
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发表于 2007-6-9 22:43:20 | 显示全部楼层
<p>我也是看的闲话诗钟,可能我学得的诗钟观点和哈公的不一样。比如这段:</p><p>六、钟题<br/><br/>普通拈题,常用抽字及翻书等法,以昭公允,分咏事物者,于书中翻出两事物,嵌字格则于书中任翻数字,作为钟题,绝少由每人自出题目也。分咏、合咏不可犯题面字,例如分咏“元宵”、“蝶”。则钟句须避用“元宵蝶”三字。<strong>分咏合咏事物,并忌以代替字明点题意</strong>,例如“象、扇”分咏。若用大兽、交趾兽、挥羽、羽毛、一羽、裁纨等字,不啻将题字明明点出,决难得到佳句,且易失去题意。</p><p></p><p><strong>「岳飛、虎」:分詠 <br/>  畫爾不成翻類犬;字之曰舉並稱鵬(君左)。 </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p>这联,并未直接以鹏举两字代指岳飞,而是拆分出来求对仗。应该是可以的。此是诗钟尚巧之体现。</p><p>个人认为诗钟并非单纯咏物联,也不以穷形摹神为能事,而是抓住所咏物某个特点或某个关联点,使人能够自此自然联想到所咏物上。</p>
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发表于 2007-6-9 23:08:01 | 显示全部楼层
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>方歌吟</i>在2007-6-9 18:48:25的发言:</b><br/><p></p><p>俺覺护房樹沒有問題,古人分咏不犯題字即可,其实范圍可以很寬的,內容与其相關即可,這樣才有發揮余地和趣味可言,壞在今人作茧自縛,如茶要分茶葉茶湯,花要分花蕊花枝,皆强作框架耳!</p><p>哈公的聯問題應是出在映焙坊上,找老財算帳就是了,誰叫他经營不力,要是映焙坊如麦當勞一樣出名就沒問題了.</p><p>也引用兩個古鐘:</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast;">杨贵妃-苏东坡</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">自古环肥殊燕瘦</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"><br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">至今玉带在金山</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast;">西厢-汉高祖</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">崔貌张才成眷属</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"><br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">刘兴项灭定江山</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p></div><p>个人认为这两个古钟都不见得好。传下来的古钟也并非都是好的。第一个诗钟,上联看作咏赵飞燕也可。下联因为紧扣典故,倒是杀对了地方。第二个诗钟,上联中的,下联泛泛而已。以刘兴项灭来直白点出汉高祖,钟味大减。</p>

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